Today it’s my great pleasure and honor to introduce my interview with Carlotta Giangualano. Carlotta is the granddaughter of a Mayan shaman from the village of Coba. She’s an absolute wealth of knowledge of the Mayan culture, science, astronomy, agriculture, which she has brought to life through her art and the depictions of the purple view which is the creation and legends and myths of the mind culture.
In this three-part series, we’ll discuss her upbringings in the village of Coba, her grandmother who was the keeper very sacred Mayan knowledge. This is really where my connection with Carlotta started is that I could see that she was so knowledgeable in how the workings of, for instance, the Mayan calendar was, its application into society.
It really brought forth my interest into an area that I’ve been researching for the past few years as to how deep the Mayan knowledge was and how can we really explain this. In their legends and myths book, they talk about where they got this knowledge from and throughout this three-part series we’ll discuss this history.
I really think this is an important interface between ancient traditions, legacy and what we understand today. I hope to bring Carlotta’s beautiful art knowledge to the world and I hope you really appreciate how deep the Mayan knowledge is. We are really going to follow this line up because I found this interview just fascinating. I’m sure you will as well.
This is part one of my interview with Carlotta Giangualano. Hi Carlotta, thanks so much for joining us. What’s really interesting is when we met you told me about your heritage and that you have a deep connection in your family to the Mayan culture, you are Mayan yourself.
And we started talking and your beautiful art and all of the knowledge you bring about the calendar system and the Mayan myths. I bought your book about the Mayan creation story. It made me really realize how much knowledge the Mayan people held in something I’ve been researching recently.
I realized just from talking to you for 10 minutes that there was a lot you knew. So thank you very much for sharing more with us. Today, I’d love to hear a little bit about your story and a little bit about the Mayan creation story and the theory of the universe and how that’s seen as how to fix our life.
Here’s the full transcript of this episode:
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Today it’s my great pleasure and honour to introduce my interview with Carlotta Giangualano. Carlotta is the granddaughter of a Mayan shaman from the village of Coba. She’s an absolute wealth of knowledge of the Mayan culture, science, astronomy, agriculture, which she has brought to life through her art and the depictions of the purple view which is the creation and legends and myths of the mind culture.
In this three-part series, we’ll discuss her upbringings in the village of Coba, her grandmother who was the keeper very sacred Mayan knowledge. This is really where my connection with Carlotta started is that I could see that she was so knowledgeable in how the workings of, for instance, the Mayan calendar was, its application into society.
It really brought forth my interest into an area that I’ve been researching for the past few years as to how deep the Mayan knowledge was and how can we really explain this. In their legends and myths book, they talk about where they got this knowledge from and throughout this three-part series we’ll discuss this history.
I really think this is an important interface between ancient traditions, legacy and what we understand today. I hope to bring Carlotta’s beautiful art knowledge to the world and I hope you really appreciate how deep the Mayan knowledge is. We are really going to follow this line up because I found this interview just fascinating. I’m sure you will as well.
This is part one of my interview with Carlotta Giangualano. Hi Carlotta, thanks so much for joining us. What’s really interesting is when we met you told me about your heritage and that you have a deep connection in your family to the Mayan culture, you are Mayan yourself.
And we started talking and your beautiful art and all of the knowledge you bring about the calendar system and the Mayan myths. I bought your book about the Mayan creation story. It made me really realize how much knowledge the Mayan people held in something I’ve been researching recently.
I realized just from talking to you for 10 minutes that there was a lot you knew. So thank you very much for sharing more with us. Today, I’d love to hear a little bit about your story and a little bit about the Mayan creation story and the theory of the universe and how that’s seen as how to fix our life.
Carlotta: [0:03:00] My grandmother was a shaman from the village of Coba. Her stories that she told me when I was a child are still vivid in my mind even so years passed by and facing the society that we live. We need to work and have a certain place for us to live.
I was a nurse and worked at the hospital and raised seven children. But one of the things I always remember when I was with my grandmother is how we faced difficulties every day. Even so, my grandmother warned me about what I needed to do or guided me more or less to what I needed to do for the future, what I needed to know about what happened in our own words.
As the Mayan Empire flourish at the time because she had a lot of memories and words and things that she used to tell me when I was a child. One of the theories or one of the narrations that she gave me was how the universe at one time had a collision between one of the moons and one of the planets, creating all these pieces that from this crash coming down to earth causing what we call the big flood.
Steven: [0:05:22] Is that the creation, is that the first?
Carlotta: [0:05:25] That’s part of the first book of creation. We call it the arrival also. This arrival was due to the fact that if we open our eyes in the night we don’t see anything because it’s dark. But at one time we believe that certain energy that we call [0:05:59 Ojo negro] was the part of this creation that we are here now.
She used to say that if it wasn’t for the arrival of these creators, the existence of humans or existence, we came to life. At one time I asked her if we came from another planet or where we came from. She used to say your existence was already created before and the creators actually brought us to this place or earth.
After the years that we as humans settled here that was part of the first book of creation, the arrival. This is why I’m still working on my first book. The book that I just published in the book of how this was implemented in stages. How it was implemented, for example, the elements with the arrival, the elements and the collision of the first flood causing a big disturbance in the planet.
Steven: [0:08:04] Because the Mayan calendar is obviously very, very accurate, is there any discussion of the date and the time period for that first?
Carlotta: [0:08:14] No, because what was in the [0:08:22 collises], the information was destroyed. But as my grandmother used to say, the collises might be destroyed but the existence of a bigger wrecker is still in one of the caves in the Yucatan area or in this area, Mayan area.
I’ve been searching for these caves that she mentioned, especially for the past 5 or 10 years. We’ve been going there discovering things that she actually mentioned when she was alive.
The thing is that when she told me that due to the second flood because she recalled her memory that there was a big flood number one and then there was another flood, I guess, pieces of the same crash is still going around and somehow they landed in the planet again.
Steven: [0:09:47] And did she talk about the reason for those floods, was there an astronomical connection to that?
Carlotta: [0:09:58] Yes, we still have pieces up there. They are not all landed. They landed in certain places. The way the universe is moving, there are still pieces there.
Steven: [0:10:14] Lots of places. Yeah, we fluctuate all the time.]
Carlotta: [0:10:17] Lots of it everywhere. We call it asteroids, whatever you want to call it, but they still there and we don’t know how long or when it’s going to land or not on our planet.
Steven: [0:10:36] There was a very big impact in 1908 in Russia that it could have flattened the very big area of forest and killed all. But it was a tiny piece and it actually didn’t impact the ground. It just exploded in a wave of energy.
Francisco: [0:10:58] About the episode in Siberia.
Steven: [0:10:59] Siberia, yes, correct.
Carlotta: [0:11:04] Yeah, like I said there are still some pieces. If you ever went to the Grand Canyon you can see that actually it was being hit in there. The thing is that years ago the Yucatan area, at the head of the Yucatan area there was the empire, the Mayan Empire.
The Mayan Empire and the second flood actually suffered a cataclysm. Due to the fact that most of the area was flushed down to the ocean, the people actually from that particular clan of Mayan, because there are other clans in the area with different names.
But the ones we call the Mayan Mayan actually went and refugee themselves and other tribes. This is how the technology and the astronomy and the writing and the painting and all that was spread all the way down to Guatemala, Salvador, Honduras and all these places because of the refugee people that suffer this cataclysm.
Steven: [0:12:45] So was this a Mayan city that was flooded and so they had to leave?
Carlotta: [0:12:48] Yes.
Francisco: [0:12:49] The entire area there was a flood. There are records that big meteor landed just outside the Yucatan area and flooded everything.
Steven: [0:13:00] Do we know a date for this? This is relatively recent, isn’t it?
Carlotta: [0:13:05] No.
Francisco: [0:13:07] It’s the same story that you see in the Bible in any other culture, they are talking about this big impact.
Steven: [0:13:15] So this is the big one, okay. So the Mayan people were there before this big impact. And the biggest one we have on record is 12800 years ago that caused the breakup of the North American ice sheet and that is dated too. That then talked about a cold snap called the Younger Dryas period that went for 1100 years to 11600 years. We know that the temperatures came up then to what they currently are. It sounds like it’s related to that.
Carlotta: [0:13:48] Yes, it was that time. It was more or less close to that time. There are other main elements that we need to take in consideration. For example, pumapunku, you can see that the existence of this big, huge, beautiful city that we are still thinking about what kind of technology was used to build this beautiful place then now it’s been destroyed.
We can assume, not necessarily take a theory, that it could be one of the impacts coming from the outside, not necessarily that the people there disappeared or died or whatever because some of the pieces can have what they call radiation.
Who knows if actually, all these people died or whatever because we are still finding cities that were built at one time that we can’t have an explanation. The theory we can put in there is that it can be possible that it was destroyed by these pieces coming from the outside.
Steven: [0:15:29] Did the records talk about what astrological bodies were involved? Is there talk of planets?
Carlotta: [0:15:39] No. Sometimes the Mayan people can tell what is up there or what’s coming just by looking at the sky. That’s because they are very much involved in astronomy and astrology. We still have people that know exactly what is going on in there.
Even so, we have a big microscope these days, new technology and all that. I think it’s up to the people that have the knowledge of how the planets were built or the universe was set up. They have a map of the universe, not only in paper but in here.
Steven: [0:16:40] And that’s what really drew me to the Mayan culture, the mathematics and the systematic recordkeeping of the astronomical bodies. That’s what I see in the calendar system. There are a lot of misconceptions but the Mayan calendar system has so much information in it, doesn’t it?
It might help to talk a little bit about that and how it’s formed and how brilliant it is because it relates to not only astronomical and many, many different astronomical and connections between cycles but also to nature and to human behaviour and their physiology. I’d love you to take us through that a little bit, maybe from the smallest parts and taking us through how the Mayan calendar works.
Carlotta: [0:17:35] The Mayan calendar consists of different stages of different circles. At one time we feel that we were the inventors of the watch because we go to kin. Kin is the cycle of what they call the days and then we go to tuns. Tuns is a cycle of the months.
Steven: [0:18:09] So how many kin and how many tuns?
Carlotta: [0:18:11] 20 kins and 13 tuns?
Steven: [0:18:20] Tuns, months.
Carlotta: [0:18:22] Tuns are the years. When one cycle moves then one house of the tuns move. And then when the cycle is full then another cycle is filled by tuns or the years. And then the tuns, they go on and on and on and on until the millenniums. We know how to count millenniums and not months and dates but millenniums.
We don’t use 20. We use the zero which it’s the same equivalent of 20 houses but we use 0, 1, 2, 3. Zero is very important in the mathematical system. Even these days accordingly to the Gregorian calendar we come up to the same amount of days. We knew that millennials before the invention of the Gregorian calendar.
Steven: [0:19:37] The problem with the Gregorian calendar is that it’s far more inaccurate because it doesn’t have multiple systems.
Carlotta: [0:19:45] Well because of one day.
Steven: [0:19:48] The leap year.
Carlotta: [0:19:49] I think it’s one day and a half because then they because they don’t use the zero. We use the zero so it has to be exactly 365.
Steven: [0:20:02] Explain that in the terms of the numbers. So we have 20 kin which is the days. We have 13 tun, which is the month. So 20 times 13, that’s a full year?
Carlotta: [0:20:17] I’m going to give you a copy of the calculations of the Mayans. Right now I don’t have it.
Francisco: [0:20:35] 19 houses are included in the Mayan cycle, the year cycle. They are not 30 days or 31 days. They go from 20 to 22 per group. But in the end, they complete the 365 days.
Steven: [0:20:55] So it’s a multiple of cycles?
Francisco: [0:20:56] That’s right. They are not exactly the same amount of days per cycle. But altogether the 19 houses comprise the full 365 days and some because the cycle actually includes the offset of the six hours to make the next 24 hours for every four years.
Steven: [0:21:23] That’s very interesting because the calendar system and the Mayan calendar system is the most accurate I’ve seen but every calendar system in the world except for the new one, there is variation.
Francisco: [0:21:37] Right. You can find the same concept in many other cultures. The Mayans were the first one to organize it properly and they extended their calculation over and over.
Carlotta: [0:21:53] They think also that according to the astronomy we are the third planet in our solar system. So in consideration of a place, to make sure time and days here we use that as a base to calculate the movement of the days, and the movement of months and the movement of years. Number three is very important in our theory about the calendar.
Steven: [0:22:36] Okay and that accounts for the earth in the solar system and how the other planets affect.
Carlotta: [0:22:42] That is correct. We use the third place of the solar system to count time.
Steven: [0:22:51] That makes complete sense.
Carlotta: [0:22:53] Because if it’s Mercury you have to see how many days are there but we haven’t found any in Venus or Mercury or whatever. But we are the third planet in the solar system so therefore we are using the number three because of place to be able to come out with the calendar.
Steven: [0:23:23] That makes complete sense because all it is a calculation of time around the sun so you must know where which planet because all of those planets affect the movement of it so it’s calculating that astronomical order within.
Carlotta: [0:23:40] Yes.
Steven: [0:23:41] It’s absolutely brilliant. Of the nine calendars, do they represent the orbit of the different planets?
Carlotta: [0:23:47] No, they represent the time in here. A planet also has an expiration date. We don’t know how or when but according to the last cycle, the millenniums can be in two or three millenniums, they can be tomorrow because nobody has used this calendar for calculations.
The mathematical system that the Mayans used is not being applied to any of the other calculations, NASA and all these agencies, don’t have any idea of how to calculate or how to do this. But sometimes even for us with the naked eye, we can see when it’s going to rain when it’s going to be windy when it’s going to be cold.
Sometimes we say, oh, my arm hurts whatever. We say oh there’s a change of weather. Sometimes we don’t pay attention to certain signs that we receive. As soon as you receive the information your pain is gone because of the information that you receive.
For example, it’s going to rain is related to the weather. I have a big headache. Sure, you have a big headache not because it’s going to rain but the pressure in the atmosphere is telling you something or you haven’t eaten. Your body is telling you something and we miss those signs every day.
Steven: [0:25:56] That’s what I found. Immediately when I began to look at the calendar system and the Mayan calendar system, in particular, there was a reason why, there were the mathematicians, astronomers but there’s a reason why we need to be in sync with all that.
And like you said it’s because when we are in sync and that’s why the Mayan calendar is so valuable because it puts us back in sync with the order of what’s happening. And it’s just observations.
Did your grandmother teach you how to use the Mayan calendar in your day to day life, like the naming of children? Did you use that? Because doesn’t it depend on when they are born and the astrology, for instance, how it applies to?
Carlotta: [0:26:46] Not really. Sometimes we think about elements that are in the atmosphere, the energy, it’s available to all of us. Sometimes we use it, sometimes we don’t and the energy that exists tells us that we can do things that we want. This energy actually the way we feel comfortable with it, these days we put names to the energy, for example, telekinesis, ESP, astral travel. We put names to something that exists and it’s only one. It depends on what kind of energy you to feel more comfortable, what type of energy you have developed more.
Steven: [0:27:54] And so is this related to the Mayan astrology system?
Carlotta: [0:27:59] Yes, astronomy.
Steven: [0:28:02] Astronomy or astrology?
Carlotta: [0:28:04] Astrology.
Steven: [0:28:06] And so does that work with them? How does the astrological system work?
Carlotta: [0:28:18] Astronomy is a field that covers a lot of things, not only one subject. It’s more related to the stars in the universe. Accordingly, to the guidance of the universe or whatever we see up there, it’s a time where we are, where we are going. It’s something that gives us the freedom to express ourselves as our own existence.
Steven: [0:29:02] Are there 13 Mayan astrological figures or is it 12?
Francisco: [0:29:09] 19
Carlotta: [0:29:11] 19 houses, yes. Are we talking about astrology or astronomy? They are quite different.
Steven: [0:29:23] I was talking about the astrology.
Francisco: [0:29:25] I think you may say that the astrology part of it was the science that the priests in the Mayan civilization were used to interpret the event of life and to create or suggest the best way to see, the best way to harvest, the best way to have a child so events of the daily existence.
But there is another element. In the Mayan civilization, 52 is the basis of life. Their cycle of existence brings you every 52 years to the point that when the cycle complete, the official build the darker year don’t get destroyed by that they build upon.
If you go to Chichén Itzá there is not one but pyramid there are layers of the pyramid that are being built one on top of the other every 52 years. That is an element that is important to consider in calculating or in trying to discover all these mathematical cycles that Mayan were using in their own existence.
Steven: [0:30:51] That makes complete sense. 52, what does that number represent?
Francisco: [0:30:57] I have no idea.
Carlotta: [0:31:01] The 52 represents in a way the five, for example, or senses, the taste, the eyes, or senses. Given that it’s the number two we are number two because we have split ourselves between the good and the bad. Between the two is a number two, between the five, we have the five senses.
So we say in order to renew me from these senses, we need to do something and doing something is rebuild. Not only rebuild yourself automatically but rebuilding a pyramid on top of the other pyramid every 52 years, reminds us what we need to do.
Steven: [0:32:15] That makes complete. It seems like there’s a metaphysical explanation there because it’s talking about senses. But also potentially maybe it’s talking about consciousness and the subdivision of whether there are two splits of consciousness and then in the senses and so it’s talking about the seven principle features of life in a way. This kind of philosophy lived on into the Greeks, we talk about the Julian universes.
Francisco: [0:32:47] Every civilization has a different interpretation of the same element. But what is constant is that there is a physical aspect of our existence but there is also a spiritual aspect of our existence. And the two sometimes meet. Sometimes they fight each other but those are elements for which we live.
There is no separation. Each culture has a different perception or interpretation of it. The Mayan have that. They are using it, they are being steady throughout their existence. They evolve like everybody else, got to the apex of their civilization, and then went to the end of it.
Carlotta: [0:33:35] You need to also get the point. For example, a light bulb, you know, electricity is composed of the two poles. Negative and positive, the two, if you merge it, it make one. And this is how we apply ourselves there with light. We are light.
We search, not for the piece that we missing but something that it will bring us the whole theatre in front of us who we are, why we have been researching all of this. Are we researching or looking for something to put the puzzle together? No. This is something the old selves are anxious to find this piece of us that belong to us.
If we find it we can have a better spectrum of what is around us. Some people have found it and we call it saints because there is a manifestation of this energy that existed. When that happens we are really there. In the Mayan culture also we believe in reincarnation.
It’s like you put enough coins in a pot. We call it a bank, and then what? When the bank is full, what are you going to do? You are going to get another one probably and put some more. But when you finish filling up one what are you going to do?
Use it. Use it. If you have any energy, if you feel having any energy, don’t waste it and put in somewhere else. Use it for yourself because it’s very important to use it for yourself. Not to use it for bad or good or do this or do that, no, use it in yourself and you’ll become more aware of your existence. When you come more aware of your existence life gets easy, we say a piece of cake.
Francisco: [0:36:13] I’d like to make a comment on that. This level of energy that is available and we see a spread in any culture, but certain people not everybody because we discounted, but in the Christian, we call these saints. In the Buddhist environment, they call it something else. You see any form or earth.
But what is interesting in really fascinated me and I see that is that in this premise, so-called preindustrial society or primitive society there is always somebody that becomes the expression of this energy. In the American Indian society, there is always a medicine man and they call it was able to call the time for hunting, to call the herders to come by so they could hunt and they could leave.
But in the Mayan, there is always the priest that they have not just knowledge but they teach to use of that. They bring certain people from childhood into their fold and they teach them to be the healer of the family, of the community. So there is a system created and somebody can use this energy.
For example, her grandmother used to be a healer and used to be a shaman in the community. She was capable to express this energy meaningfully. She could still travel. She could bring medicine. She could heal people and that knowledge is passed on from generation to generation. Not to everybody but to certain people, she would give her in that type of use of energy, and everybody can do it, but you need to start with it, you know.
Steven: [0:38:27] So is this based on so the date and time when you are born, they raid the solar system and then the wider star system so it’s a whole mathematical?
Francisco: [0:38:42] Probably there is a connection, I’m not sure. I’m not an expert in astrology or anything like that, but the astrological people claim that you can create a chart, from that chart identify the traits of your personality. This is different and if you analyze ancient civilization, there is always a trend where this particular knowledge gets passed on from a parent, from usually in the female line, from one person to the next person to the next person. And if this person in the ring is able to express it, the energy grows and is passed on again otherwise it dies off. That’s commonly known things.
Carlotta: [0:39:38] In our cultures.
Francisco: [0:39:40] Yeah. And it’s fascinating to me to hear the story that she was telling me about what her grandmother was able to do. I give you an example. You can say no. She was married to a cousin a male engineer. Or the husband was running a mine and so on.
The guys from were from France originally. He loved his own cognac and things like that. His birthday was coming, in and she transports herself to France, bought the bottle of cognac and brought it back. This lady is in Mexico. There was no transportation to go to France. The capacity to bi-locate, to move, astral yourself and physically transport elements is not something that many people can do. She was able to do it.
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